tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post7535284775333060876..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: A Consuming FireFr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-68105265813039396472007-07-25T23:31:00.001-04:002007-07-25T23:31:00.001-04:00Yes, I do revere Newman, and, yes, I quite conscio...Yes, I do revere Newman, and, yes, I quite consciously disagree with him on much that he said. And that's precisely the satan of a powerful lot of Anglicans.<BR/><BR/>awful mistyping on my part. You all must've been wondering what I was saying.<BR/><BR/>"that's precisely the STAND of a powerful lot of Anglicans.poetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-71492609976011138242007-07-25T18:17:00.000-04:002007-07-25T18:17:00.000-04:00On this blog Newman has been answered in times pas...On this blog Newman has been answered in times past. I believe in the Anglican position, and Cardinal Newman has never convinced me to believe otherwise. It is interesting as well that his particular theory of Doctrinal Development was rejected by Rome, even though it is very popular today among some Roman Catholics.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-16455107001125172682007-07-25T17:24:00.000-04:002007-07-25T17:24:00.000-04:00OK Rod.I'm cool, calm, and collected. I won't dis...OK Rod.<BR/><BR/>I'm cool, calm, and collected. I won't dispute that you doidn't say what it still looks as though you were saying. Could be my perception.<BR/><BR/>But it still looks like you are poking at an attitude that is not really there. I have pondered Newman's Apologia and his reasons for moving on. I have understood his positions and have reasons for not accepting them, some of which have actually appeared in comments on this board. Furthermore, I have had many conversations with other AngloCatholics on just these issues. I don't think we ignore the elephants, We pet them. There's no greater occurence of blindspotitis among Anglicans than among RCs.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I do revere Newman, and, yes, I quite consciously disagree with him on much that he said. And that's precisely the satan of a powerful lot of Anglicans.<BR/><BR/>edpoetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-86784610576806917282007-07-25T10:06:00.000-04:002007-07-25T10:06:00.000-04:00Ed,Calm down. I never said that you have to agree ...Ed,<BR/><BR/>Calm down. I never said that you have to agree with everything the man said. I simply pointed out that Anglicans typically just ignore or dismiss that which they cannot logically answer. Newman's Apologia is one of many elephants in the room which are just ignored - not answered. <BR/><BR/>Rod TreatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-70229898837547358172007-07-25T09:27:00.000-04:002007-07-25T09:27:00.000-04:00Why is it out of place to heed wise words from a m...Why is it out of place to heed wise words from a man when he is preaking truth, even if one does not entirely accept all of his opinions? I'm sorry, but that is an entirely illogical stance. No man is a seamless whole, to be entirely accepted or entirely rejected. In fact, as you enter the RCC, remember that that is applied, even by Vatican One, to the pope himself. There are only certain circumstances in which he MUST be believed. Picking and choosing among authorities is not a peculiarly Anglican activity, but one that any thinking person is bound to follow.<BR/><BR/>edpoetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-72432384030028132812007-07-25T08:02:00.000-04:002007-07-25T08:02:00.000-04:00As a deacon (soon to be former) in the APCK who is...As a deacon (soon to be former) in the APCK who is leaving the Anglican or "Anglo-catholic" tradition for the real Catholic Church, I am amused when Anglicans quote Cardinal Newman. The fact that he could be so revered by Anglicans while having his Apologia and subsequent essays in defense of Rome blithely dismissed or ignored is one of the things which has contributed to my conversion. But then ignoring questions or controversies which can't be satisfactorily answered is an Anglican tradition.<BR/><BR/>Rod TreatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-21760299849750725222007-07-24T18:14:00.000-04:002007-07-24T18:14:00.000-04:00CS Lewis, in His Narnia Books, specifically in 'Th...CS Lewis, in His Narnia Books, specifically in 'The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe,' notes tghis very compellingly. I'm paraphrasing.<BR/><BR/>The children have just been told that this 'Aslan' that they are going to meet (The Christ figure of the volume) is actually a lion.<BR/>"But ... a lion!" was the response. "Is he quite safe?" "Safe?" said Mr. Beaver, rather scornfully. "Of course he's not safe. He's a lion, I tell you ... but he is good."<BR/><BR/>A safe God is no God at all. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death. The soul thsat sinneth, it shall die. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. But God is love. He sent forth his Son that none need perish. He calls us to repentance, and provides the guarantee that true repentance is answered from the Cross. He is not safe. He is terrifying indeed. But He is good and wants us -- to love us forever. But on His terms, not on ours.<BR/><BR/>edpoetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-14627379831032270812007-07-23T15:03:00.000-04:002007-07-23T15:03:00.000-04:00Ok..now you HAVE DONE IT! You have quoted from my ...Ok..now you HAVE DONE IT! You have quoted from my absolute favorite Anglican. <BR/> If you ever get the chance, read "The Church of England according to Newman' by Stanly Jaki...It is realy quite prophetic when you look at what Newman said would happen and what is actually happening today. Shakes you up a little. <BR/> sanctoraleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com