tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post1378408296695452114..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: Hart thunders like Amos against cruel, incoherent religion.Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-66836782789940182222020-02-23T15:34:56.144-05:002020-02-23T15:34:56.144-05:00Quite frankly, a passage from the "Athanasian...Quite frankly, a passage from the "Athanasian Creed" is not Scripture. Obviously, it reflects a Latin passage using aeternum for aionios, an unfortunate rendering from Matt. 25:41, 46. And, you will not find a 5th Ecumenical Council condemnation of Universalism except in a corrupted text. There was a condemnation of a version of the doctrine that included the pre-existence of souls (an idea some have attributed to Origen). That is not the same thing.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-12171448282735765292020-01-26T14:35:10.147-05:002020-01-26T14:35:10.147-05:00Fr. Hart,
At your recommendation I read your brot...Fr. Hart,<br /><br />At your recommendation I read your brother’s book, and it made a lot of sense. However, aren’t there things in the formularies that teach an eternal hell? For example, in the Athanasian Creed we say that “they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire.” <br /><br />I know Dr. Pusey argued that the condemnation of Origen at the 5th Ecumenical Council condemned universalism, although reading through the 15 anathemas I was glad to see no mention of it. Daniel Ledouxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01070128714547740478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-92153950609381849912019-12-12T14:53:26.505-05:002019-12-12T14:53:26.505-05:00I have to disagree with you. I suggest that all th...I have to disagree with you. I suggest that all three of the Cappadocean Fathers, especially St. Gregory of Nyssa (for your argument isn't really against my brother's position, but against his belief in theirs), would say that the underestimating being done is by you; I believe you are underestimating the love and invincible power of God to finsh His perfect work. The strongest argument is from Gregory, that Creatio ex nihilo and the eschaton are all one work. Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-76860479629357713402019-12-08T10:12:28.767-05:002019-12-08T10:12:28.767-05:00I love David Bentley Hart's books. A breath ...I love David Bentley Hart's books. A breath of fresh air. However, his latest on universal salvation fails to prove his premise that in the end "All will be saved." He postulates that in the end even the most sinful depraved of individuals will abandon his pride, his ego, his self worship, his sin and accept the everlasting invitation of God. Hart underestimates the depth of individuals' depravity and self delusion which Satan affirms and magnifies within the confines of Hell. I recommend "The Great Divorce" by Cs Lewis as an alternative. Still, Hart's latest book is fun to read. Theology at its best.CanonJohn3+ https://www.blogger.com/profile/03319620841546777233noreply@blogger.com