tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post115821733921366391..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: The "Clash of Civilisations"Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1159565568376405072006-09-29T17:32:00.000-04:002006-09-29T17:32:00.000-04:00This is important to think on. Fr. Kirby has gott...This is important to think on. Fr. Kirby has gotten to the essence of the situation. And yes both secular humanism (it is world wide and not confined to the West)and Islam of all stripes seek our destruction. This is most clearly seen when the left wing media use the Islamic reaction to the Pope's lecture to try and discredit the Church and to minimize the Pope. They must know that Islamic true believers want desperately to kill them, and yet they cannot resist going along with the fantastic charges leveled at His Holiness by those same Muslims.<BR/><BR/>Look at this from Lucifer's point of view; both secular humanism and Islam are useful tools to attack the Church. Why not work both ends to attack the same target? And if they get in each other's line of fire so what? More souls for Hell to consume.<BR/><BR/>The danger for Christians here is in choosing sides. We need to make sure that we are on Christ's side and soldiers in His Army. Remember, many of the most vocal opponents of the Muslim terrorists believe orthodox Christians to be potentially just as dangerous. <BR/><BR/>In a world of "conflict resolution", mandatory "diversity training", and and a strict rule that religious beliefs should not be allowed to influence public policy in any way, Christians are headed for the kind of conflicts that will cost them their jobs and lead to their marginalization in society.<BR/><BR/>Until we get a new attitude about promoting the gospel we will continue to be marginalized. For us the question must not be whether Jerusalem is to be Jewish or Muslim , rather the question should be why is it not Christian?Fr. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18097549748468739701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1159236854024835712006-09-25T22:14:00.000-04:002006-09-25T22:14:00.000-04:00With Mohamed all of the many kinds of heresy were ...With Mohamed all of the many kinds of heresy were combined into one new religion. Can we not see at least an echo, if not a fulfillment, of I John 2:18? "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." Who is this one antichrist that sums up the work of all the heretics who had come before, be they Legalists, Gnostics or Arians? Be they Montanists with a "new prophecy" or Pneumatamachoi that deny the Holy Spirit. All of these antichrists had the system of their doctrine swept up into the substance of Islam by the antichirst himself, who I have long identified as that raider who came out of the desert to convert the cities and cultures of Middle Eastern Christianity into an extension of the desert, a place of barreness.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1159144770343301622006-09-24T20:39:00.000-04:002006-09-24T20:39:00.000-04:00A good treatment, Father Kirby, but it does have t...A good treatment, Father Kirby, but it does have to be remembered, that ultimately the conflict really is between the Church and those who hate Christianity. In opposing traditional Christianity, Islam, Western Secularism, and modernist religion speak with one voice, no matter how much they may be at odds on other matters. Islam (even moderate Islam)has in common with modernism that it was deliberately constructed in opposition to the truth of the Catholic Tradition, and both ideologies are entirely committed to driving traditional Catholicism out of existence.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, it needs also to be noted that Islam's criticism of the West for its sexual immorality is a little hypocritical. Until the recent collapse of Western morality, the whole civilized world was aware of and dismayed by the sexual perversity of the Islamic world. Osama's father, as reported in [i]The Week[/i]for 9/14, had at least 22 wives, no more than 4 at a time, and many of them for less than 24 hours, which is all quite in accord with [i]sharia[/i]. There is also the sad misuse of boys in Afghanistan, condemned by Islamic law, but yet an integral part of the society.<BR/><BR/>No, hate is not justified. We are not asked, but commanded to love our enemies, but we are also expected to use wisdom in identifying our enemies, and, though it is not PC to say so, Islam is an irreformable enemy of the Church.<BR/><BR/>edpoetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1159130056154448782006-09-24T16:34:00.000-04:002006-09-24T16:34:00.000-04:00It's also what the Pope has been saying for a long...It's also what the Pope has been saying for a long time, Albion. I think what might have surprise him was to find just how quick the Western secular media were to side with Islam (if not actually radical Islam, then at least hypersensitive easily-offended Islam) when they perceived a chance to make the Pope, and by extension the Church, look silly. Or perhaps he was expecting that, too. After all, he's not silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1159086479051712462006-09-24T04:27:00.000-04:002006-09-24T04:27:00.000-04:00This is what I have been arguing for a long time. ...This is what I have been arguing for a long time. The clash is not so much between Islam and Christianity but between Islam and the post-Christian, or secular, West.<BR/><BR/>But let us not forget that Islam, like Christianity, will not rest until all people are one. The difference lies in the methodology, and the theological and philosophical pillars that underlie that methodology -- coercion vs conviction.Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.com