tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post7856226911432871394..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: Re-posted from Aug.2007Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-11938182899751329232010-02-08T11:26:15.711-05:002010-02-08T11:26:15.711-05:00Thank you Robert. I am very pleased that I decided...Thank you Robert. I am very pleased that I decided to add this blog to my blogroll. Thank all of you for allowing all the rest of us "branches" to have another window into what the Head of the Church is continuing to do with the Anglican community. Please know that we hold you in the highest regard and thank God often for the heritage of the English church.<br />p.s.I love your work at Touchstone Magazine.John Paul Toddhttp://e4unity.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-42382723378320809732010-02-06T13:18:09.238-05:002010-02-06T13:18:09.238-05:00St Worm,
I am more than glad to thank you for you...St Worm,<br /><br />I am more than glad to thank you for your very gracious comment. I look at the present course of the ACA/TAC as the result of dispair. I also see in it a good deal of just plain depression for which good medical advice should be sought.<br /><br />Rome has in fact been copying the positive things of the English Reform for the last fifty years are so. If we give up and go over to them, who will there be to call them back to the Church of the "earliest bishops and Catholic fathers?" Who will there be to remind them that the Gospel should be heard; that we should "read, mark,learn, and inwardly digest" the totality of Holy Scripture?<br /><br />We, too, need a "New Liturgical Movement" to remind us, not of the baroque decadence of the Roman faith which so disgusted Luther and others, but of the true treasure of the prayer book tradition if honestly and completely followed and lived. We need to set ourselves the goal of out praying and out glorifying the Father by our knowledge of Holy Scripture, the corpus of the Catholic fathers, East and West, and the General Councils rather than aspiring to be a cheap imitation of something else. But that might take a courage and masculinity which seems to be missing in our times.<br /><br />"waidie"Canon Tallishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05182884929479435751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-24558345480958851052010-02-06T04:46:17.451-05:002010-02-06T04:46:17.451-05:00Canon Tallis,
Brilliant. When Anglicans stop try...Canon Tallis,<br /><br />Brilliant. When Anglicans stop trying to act oh-so-Romish or oh-so-Eastern-Orthodox (our respective brethren's strengths excepting, and there's so much to commend them), and start playing the man within our hard-core Anglican tradition, there will be more to be gained by all. As it is, the programme from some quarters is to just use Anglican liturgy as a pretext to dive into the "really good stuff" in Byzantium or Rome. Bahhh, I love the Prayer Book tradition, and our Missal is more than enough for supplement. Maybe our Anglican witness is just what the doctor ordered to keep the other 2/3rds of the kingdom honest... but first we have to be honest with ourselves and take our own medicine.<br /><br />St. WormAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-16009703934843776512010-02-04T23:45:26.773-05:002010-02-04T23:45:26.773-05:00There was a day when I would have described myself...There was a day when I would have described myself as an "Anglo-Catholic." I am now content to be mere Anglican knowing that by being so I am both as Catholic and as Orthodox as any prelate of the "two One True Churches" could ever hope to be. They might not agree but there are so many things which the Church - or should I write "The Church" - of the first five centuries did and believed that both of them have abandoned while to one extent or another they have both embraced what St Paul labeled plainly "the doctrine of devils" that their smirks of knowing superiority no longer bother me. <br /><br />The only thing which I have to offer God is my own acceptance and belief in Him as set forth in Holy Scripture as interpreted by the Fathers, the Creeds and the universally accepted (but little known or obeyed) General Councils. Can Rome or the Orthodox of the Patriarchal Sees do more?<br /><br />"spark"Canon Tallishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05182884929479435751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-18056329370852583212010-02-04T18:50:26.962-05:002010-02-04T18:50:26.962-05:00Hugo Menendez wrote:
How can Anglicans decry &quo...Hugo Menendez wrote:<br /><br /><i>How can Anglicans decry "exclusivism" and recommend a "branch theory," when that ecclesiological model is most certainly not "that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all,"...</i><br /><br />St. Vincent also had nothing to say about space travel, or even about the discovery of America. The Great Schism of 1054 simply had not happened yet.<br /><br /><i>...and continues to be rejected by all the ancient sees...</i><br /><br />Yes, based on each of them believing itself to be the whole Church, and saying to each other "I have no need of thee."<br />Inasmuch as the ancient Sees exclude each other and for all practical purposes have done so since 1054, your logic forces you to answer which of <a href="http://anglicancontinuum.blogspot.com/2008/10/odd-couple.html" rel="nofollow">the two One True Churches</a> is not even part of the Church. Thank God, we are free from that burden, and we will remain free from it until Mom and Dad kiss and make up. If they never do, we will continue to know that we, like them, are the Church.<br /><br />And, their status as "ancient Sees" is neither here nor there. The whole Church has the same origin and foundation, and so we are just as ancient as they.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-38597866504529241812010-02-04T17:17:57.527-05:002010-02-04T17:17:57.527-05:00Fr. Hart, you may be interested in a recent blog c...Fr. Hart, you may be interested in a recent blog column by William Witt entitled "Newman's Incoherence".<br /><br />http://willgwitt.org/anglicanism/newmans-incoherence/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-51352929573284777542010-02-04T15:21:17.320-05:002010-02-04T15:21:17.320-05:00Great posting Fr. Hart. I really enjoyed this one....Great posting Fr. Hart. I really enjoyed this one.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18402467584294418765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-8508376905485731752010-02-04T14:29:37.729-05:002010-02-04T14:29:37.729-05:00Anglican by Conviction. How appropriate! I was bor...Anglican by Conviction. How appropriate! I was born and raised a Wesleyan and just always felt there was something *more* out there. Bought a book on Christian "denominations" in America. Knew right away I gravitated to either Roman Catholic or Episcopalian (prior to '78). I just couldn't get over a few things in the RC Church. Then the Episcopal church went off the deep end and I found St. Thomas of Canterbury, PCK. I was home! I was confirmed by Bp. Watterson, and my kids were baptized by then Fr. Stenhouse. <br /><br />Unfortuately, St. Thomas of Canterbury folded, but there was an ACC Church in town--St. Benedict's. I've been there 23 years now through all the ups and downs. I've found a home worth fighting for and I'm a happy little Anglican. :-)Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16132328501421700876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-68734434243453173782010-02-04T13:55:38.217-05:002010-02-04T13:55:38.217-05:00Fr. Mathewes-Green (Western-rite Orthodox) makes a...Fr. Mathewes-Green (Western-rite Orthodox) makes an excellent criticism of the 'branch theory" when he notes that it is most certainly a violation of the Vincentian canon. <br /><br />Both the Catholic and Orthodox communions, even when they were united, have had exclusivist claims that they are the one, true church, and those not in communion with them are in peril. How can Anglicans decry "exclusivism" and recommend a "branch theory," when that ecclesiological model is most certainly not "that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all," and continues to be rejected by all the ancient sees, whose followers account for the overwhelming majority (1.4 billion) of the people for whom "the branch theory" was intended?SDA2https://www.blogger.com/profile/15497455759272093157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-35331229844580941472010-02-04T10:11:21.164-05:002010-02-04T10:11:21.164-05:00I like that part: "Anglican by Conviction.&qu...I like that part: "Anglican by Conviction." The whole lay-over mentality will kill the Anglican witness. We are not a stopping station until people figure out where they REALLY want to be catholic at. If someone wants to be Anglican, BE an Anglican. <br /><br />I am an Anglo-Catholic by conviction. If anyone feels his Anglicanism is lacking (not quite catholic), he'd better find out quick where he thinks there's "fullness" at and move on, and don't drag down the rest of us into the mire of self-doubt and loathing. <br /><br />Good post, Fr. Hart.<br /><br />Blessings,<br />St. WormAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com