tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post6977494920051714480..comments2024-02-04T15:10:18.485-05:00Comments on The Continuum: QUINQUAGESIMA or the next Sunday before Lent.Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-71663800073191147842015-02-19T21:51:40.036-05:002015-02-19T21:51:40.036-05:00More orthodox? Relatively speaking, as more or les...More orthodox? Relatively speaking, as more or less imply, it is more orthodox. The problem with Thomas Aquinas' statement is the emphasis on penance. Repentance must be sincere, but works of penance in this formula, would be atonement, which is neither possible nor necessary. Absolution comes before penance anyway. Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-25599185566588656922015-02-19T15:44:20.786-05:002015-02-19T15:44:20.786-05:00Which first part are you referring too? The first ...Which first part are you referring too? The first sentence? What problems do you see? I know that it is Roman teaching that both the debt of eternal and temporal is remitted freely at baptism. But at Penance only eternal for the reason given by Aquinas. He also says that the eternal debt of sin is an infinite debt that can only be paid by an infinite being (Christ) and that temporal debt is a finite debt that can be paid by finite man (people in the state of grace). <br /><br />I found this more orthodox approach taken about the treasurey:<br />Some persons, by grace and agape, store up treasure in heaven. “But store up for yourselves treasure in heaven.” (Matt 6:20; cf. Rev 19:8) This is not a material treasure, but a treasure of merit, and it is made possible only by grace. The ability of any righteous man to merit anything comes from the merit of Christ. “It is a defined article of the Catholic Faith that man before, in, and after justification derives his whole capability of meriting and satisfying, as well as his actual merits and satisfactions, solely from the infinite treasure of merits which Christ gained for us on the Cross.”1 So all the merit of the saints is in this way merited by Christ, and is a participation in the merit of Christ.<br /><br />Is the above more orthodox than the usual medieval doctrine?<br /><br />Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686738325565738419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-23297408738379431502015-02-19T14:40:09.700-05:002015-02-19T14:40:09.700-05:00The first part is fine. The first part is fine. Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-82172473171771330782015-02-18T13:58:43.224-05:002015-02-18T13:58:43.224-05:00No. I see real problems in it.
No. I see real problems in it.<br />Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-64249600261515601482015-02-18T13:05:42.422-05:002015-02-18T13:05:42.422-05:00Father Hart can you agree with Thomas Aquinas'...Father Hart can you agree with Thomas Aquinas's argumentation here?<br /><br />Christ’s Passion is of itself sufficient to remove all debt of punishment, not only eternal, but also temporal; and man is released from the debt of punishment according to the measure to which he participates [participat] in the power [virtutem] of Christ’s Passion. Now in Baptism man participates totally [totaliter] in the power of Christ’s Passion, since by water and the Spirit of Christ, he dies with Him to sin, and is born again in Him to a new life, so that, in Baptism, man receives the total [totius] remission of debt of punishment. In Penance, on the other hand, man shares in the power of Christ’s Passion according to the measure of his own acts, which are the matter of Penance, as water is of Baptism, as stated above (84, 1,3). Wherefore the entire [totius] debt of punishment is not remitted at once after the first act of Penance, by which act the guilt is remitted, but only when all the acts of Penance have been completed.Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686738325565738419noreply@blogger.com