tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post5157174609198668009..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: Reposted from November 2008Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-66685144023028238152011-10-09T09:49:12.593-04:002011-10-09T09:49:12.593-04:00The cost of unity (within the Church and within ou...The cost of unity (within the Church and within ourselves) is repentance. Repentance is the first, most essential and powerful weapon of our warfare. Without it, we are individually and collectively blind, deaf, powerless, disordered, disoriented, lost. Repentance is the door to power to overcome. (See Fr. Hart's sermon for this week above)<br /><br />Without wholesale repentance, there will never be unity in the global Church. And, there is plenty of evidence, call and cause for repentance across the board in every tradition and jurisdiction of the Church, both today and over the centuries.<br /><br />Remember the scene in the Gospels when Jesus contrasted the prayers of the Publican and the Pharisee? This applies to the Church, the daughter of Jerusalem as she stands today, stained, deceived, rebellious, proud and willful...full of herself. Judgment begins in the household of faith. The furnace is in Jerusalem...in the Temple courts.<br /><br />Rosh Hashannah, the ten days of Awe and Yom Kippur have passed, but we as Christians can enter into the fasting, repentance of Lent and Yom Kippur any day of the year.<br /><br />Through His shaking and as the scandals of the Church come to light, God is bringing unity through repentance...where the Church is learning to acknowledge her sin.Confessornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1990133996448283312011-10-08T14:52:54.378-04:002011-10-08T14:52:54.378-04:00Three cheers and a 'hip,hip hoorah' for bo...Three cheers and a 'hip,hip hoorah' for both Little Black Sambo and Caedmon. <br /><br />And much, much more of the same for Father Hart.<br /><br />One of the things which buttress my own faith in classical Anglicanism is that so many of those who have chose to go Orthodox or Papist can not help but keep looking backwards, never closing their relationship with prayer book faith and practice. Clearly something in the place where they have now parked themselves is lacking.<br /><br />As Anglicans and Catholic Christians we have our failings, most those of men who have failed to do what we promised, but when all of the prayer book liturgy is given its just due, there is little in Christendom that can truly rival it.<br /><br />Thanks for the re-posting. So much of this blog deserves to be read and re-read. I hope others do it besides myself.Canon Tallishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05182884929479435751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-67404448786471363662011-10-08T08:25:13.998-04:002011-10-08T08:25:13.998-04:00"...the 'branch theory' has been disc..."<i>...the 'branch theory' has been discredited by both the Orthodox ... and the Romans.</i>"<br />Saying it doesn't make it so.Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-88848924620204699582011-10-07T21:37:08.588-04:002011-10-07T21:37:08.588-04:00Reader James Morgan,
former Anglican, now OCA, wo...Reader James Morgan, <br />former Anglican, now OCA, wonders:<br /><br /><i>In view of the current anarchy in the Anglican world, ecompassing everything from baptism in the name of other gods, and ordination of people male and female who lead disordered lives) I often wonder how a traditional Orthodox bishop would view a 'traditional' Anglican approaching him, with joy or trepidation?</i><br /><br />Well I suspect it would be the latter, since "traditional" Orthodox bishops view the <i>entire Western Christian world</i> with not only trepidation, but outright contempt. But Fr. Hart has accurately described our natural response to that.<br /><br />(Rdr.) Caedmon, former OCA, now AnglicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-40323030252988450252011-10-07T02:18:39.901-04:002011-10-07T02:18:39.901-04:00Fr. Hart, you seem to forget that the 'branch ...<i>Fr. Hart, you seem to forget that the 'branch theory' has been discredited by both the Orthodox (some of whom explicitly anathematize it) and the Romans.</i><br /><br />Forgotten? of course I haven't forgotten. It's just that I don't give a damn. The only reason the Two One True Churches take that position is to rival each other. The Anglican position is simple: we just laugh at it.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-53610743249706107622011-10-07T00:42:43.254-04:002011-10-07T00:42:43.254-04:00Fr. Hart, you seem to forget that the 'branch ...Fr. Hart, you seem to forget that the 'branch theory' has been discredited by both the Orthodox (some of whom explicitly anathematize it) and the Romans.<br /><br />It is also perhaps of interest that Roman Priests are frequently received into the Orthodox church by 'vesting', i.e. not re-ordination) but never Anglican priests. In view of the current anarchy in the Anglican world, ecompassing everything from baptism in the name of other gods, and ordination of people male and female who lead disordered lives) I often wonder how a traditional Orthodox bishop would view a 'traditional' Anglican approaching him, with joy or trepidation?<br /><br />At any rate, you have made your views clear. It would be up to the Orthodox hierahy acting in synod to adequately respond and that is well above my pay grade, as they say.<br /><br />Fraternally yours,<br /><br />Rdr. James Morgan<br />former Anglican, now OCAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-46039661954343137072011-10-06T16:31:20.429-04:002011-10-06T16:31:20.429-04:00Very well written article (again). Basically even ...Very well written article (again). Basically even if the TOTC's agreed on this, it would be, as we know from our own history, incorrect. Even if they chose to hold the idea that the Canterbury Communion was no longer part of the church, that would not apply to the Continuing Churches for both theological and organizational reasons. <br /><br />Yet even with this, there has been no move to repair relations between the EOC(s) and the Continuum. Of course there has been very little in this regard from Rome also. I suspect that the real reason for all of this is political and not theological. If either of the TOTC's recognizes our separatist groups, they might also have to recognize their own separatist groups and that is just something they just can not bring themselves to do.AFS1970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-14421176275260649342011-10-05T18:25:50.100-04:002011-10-05T18:25:50.100-04:00Wonderful!
May Christ's whole church be re-...Wonderful! <br /><br />May Christ's whole church be re-united and become one in Spirit, soul and body. <br />I Thessalonians 5:23Theodoranoreply@blogger.com