tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post4616230652668551035..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: Today's wrap upFr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-31155457465562928402012-02-11T03:58:08.368-05:002012-02-11T03:58:08.368-05:00http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/relig...http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/religionandethicsereport/thepriestintheparliament/3818688Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-23168083021807811672011-12-05T06:31:54.400-05:002011-12-05T06:31:54.400-05:00I apologize for posting that link on this thread.....I apologize for posting that link on this thread...especially in the company of Susan's eloquent and spiritually true and powerful comment. <br /><br />Please delete it or move it to a more appropriate thread.<br /><br />May the LORD bless each of us with a holy Advent...so that He is born anew in us and conquers us with His true, pure, innocent, powerful, redeeming love. Amen.Al Winnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-41927297139414308432011-12-04T08:16:53.127-05:002011-12-04T08:16:53.127-05:00Susan....kind of you to spend time on this - much ...Susan....kind of you to spend time on this - much appreciated and helpful<br /><br />ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-90787785529692500662011-12-03T20:11:37.429-05:002011-12-03T20:11:37.429-05:00The suffering of individuals affected by the antic...The suffering of individuals affected by the antics of John Hepworth is certainly a matter on ongoing concern!<br /><br />Not to mention the antics of Peter Slipper, ordained by him and appointed his Chancellor; recently controversially elevated to the role of Speaker for the Australian Federal Government's House of Representatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-67628389758238539432011-12-03T15:34:22.732-05:002011-12-03T15:34:22.732-05:00Chris,
I have been reading Hall's Theological...Chris,<br /><br />I have been reading Hall's Theological Studies and will relate a few ideas re the Trinity from my notes:<br /><br />1) The "Persona" of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit points to their distinctive qualities, yet they are unified in their common "substantia" or Essence (God). The Divine Persons are real, eternal, distinct, but not separate beings.<br /><br />2) Three Persons is not the same as three selves. God is unlimited; not dependent on any external conditions for His Existence. God is a complete Self.<br /><br />3) "Notions" distinguishes Persons from their common Essence. Hence the Divine Persons have distinct properties. Father=paternity, Son=filiation, Holy Spirit=procession.<br /><br />4) There is an eternal sequence of Divine processions (not temporal). The Father and the Son spirate the Holy Spirit. (Spiration belongs to the Father but derivatively to the Son.) The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. Divine processions are not physical, but intellectual. There is a Divine Monarchy; a priority of order but NOT of nature. <br /><br />5) The Son is the objectifying of the Father's thought, the image of God in which the Father contemplates His own Essence. The Holy Spirit is the love of the Father, and the bond of the Trinity.<br /><br />6) The Divine Persons exist in each other without confusion of Persons; the Trinity exists in each Person. However, when the Persons are mentioned together, the Father ONLY is named God, as "principatus" because He proceeds from none.<br /><br />7) Each Person contains the fullness of God, but The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Father, Son is not the Spirit, the Spirit is not the Son, the Father is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father.<br /><br />8) The Persons operate indivisibly, but in a distinct manner. The Father Who made me (will and purpose), The Son Who redeemed me (revelation, mediator), and the Holy Spirit Who sanctifies me (illumination, perfector).<br /><br />9) The Son is the WORD because He is the expression of the Father's mind.<br /><br />Hope this is helpful.<br /><br />SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-88526549575950131872011-12-03T09:42:38.597-05:002011-12-03T09:42:38.597-05:00Fr Wells...thank you for your words, and to some d...Fr Wells...thank you for your words, and to some degree I may agree with you. <br /><br />However,I still have this notion that God, through His Son, became man, for all to see, and being 'God Teacher' in the OT, and in the Gift of His Son, God as man, became the Teacher in the NT, albeit, as Christ with his methodology of teaching. Is then Christ not 'The Teacher' (God as man), who then gave the Authority to the Apostles (and successors the bishops),to go out and teach all nations, backed up with the promise of the Holy Spirit to guide them.<br /><br />In other words, how can we say God is the Teacher,and Christ is not, yet we say He is God, and the same with the Holy Spirit, a Triune God, who must possess all qualities within Himself, for He cannot be separated into three individuals.<br /><br />By all means, point me in the right direction if you think I am totally off track<br /><br />ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-84553346246646994862011-12-03T08:36:29.148-05:002011-12-03T08:36:29.148-05:00Fr Hart...if you read what I wrote, you will notic...Fr Hart...if you read what I wrote, you will notice I said nothing about Advent and the Christ Child.<br /><br />I did write about reflection and the joy of the Coming of the Christ Child, which perhaps I should have clarified a little more - referring to our Lord's birth (as the joy).<br /><br />Again, I made reference to Hepworth bashing, in general and not by naming anyone, I am just tired of the un-Christian approach to the man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-15756382241198195862011-12-02T19:49:29.159-05:002011-12-02T19:49:29.159-05:00Anonymous:
Actually, Advent is about looking ahea...Anonymous:<br /><br />Actually, Advent is about looking ahead to the second coming of Christ. <br /><br />As for the rest, I don't make the news, I just ignore it - when it is worth ignoring; which is all my alleged "Hepworth bashing" is about. I'm not taking a position between him and the RCC; neither is credible.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-66815299214284157812011-12-02T18:51:06.655-05:002011-12-02T18:51:06.655-05:00Chris: I believe you missed a subtle but critical...Chris: I believe you missed a subtle but critical distinction between "a teacher" and "The Teacher." While our Lord was addressed several times as "Master, Rabbi, and Teacher," I do not believe He ever applied this title to Himself. There is no saying, "I Am the good teacher, who provides sound instruction for the sheep."<br /><br />Susan: great comment. Thanks.Fr. Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00842080747345893229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1243970627653352162011-12-02T14:26:39.793-05:002011-12-02T14:26:39.793-05:00More subtle Hepworth bashing!
This is the season ...More subtle Hepworth bashing! <br />This is the season of Advent - a time to reflect on our faith and a time not to perpetuate throwing 'sticks and stones'. <br />Is it not time for the Moderator of this blog, to finally ban such un-Christian practice. Can we all reflect on the joy of the coming of the Christ Child, and not on the suffering of individuals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-81208221385567129762011-12-02T10:15:05.773-05:002011-12-02T10:15:05.773-05:00Hepworth case 'flares out of control':
ht...Hepworth case 'flares out of control':<br /><br />http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/hepworth-abuse-case-flares-out-of-control/story-e6frg7ko-1226212653094Al Winnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-15262838527805328602011-12-01T17:01:19.212-05:002011-12-01T17:01:19.212-05:00It is interesting to note that the title, Rabbi, i...It is interesting to note that the title, Rabbi, is used in direct reference to Jesus eight times in the gospel of John. It is also used twice in Matthew's gospel, but as a general designation and not in reference Jesus per se. According to my concordance, the term does not appear anywhere else in the NT. It is a Hebrew word meaning "my great one" and a title for revered Jewish teachers. In Matthew 23:8-9, Jesus stresses that "you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven." On the surface it is a lesson in humility, but at another level it seems to point deftly to the unity of the Godhead presented in John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." <br /><br />And so, Fr Hart, we have as our Salvation, "the One Teacher Who takes us to the One Father." Different Persons, yet sharing the same divine nature.<br /><br />SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-32253986086868581172011-12-01T12:49:27.734-05:002011-12-01T12:49:27.734-05:00I was speaking hermeneutically.I was speaking hermeneutically.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-63146593699652296402011-12-01T11:26:13.115-05:002011-12-01T11:26:13.115-05:00Fr Hart wrote...Jesus Christ did not come as a phi...Fr Hart wrote...Jesus Christ did not come as a philosopher or teacher, but as our Salvation, the One Who takes us to the Father.'<br /><br />If God is 'The 'teacher' by word and deed in the OT, and has sent His Son, to be the saving grace of all mankind, is He not also 'The Teacher' in the NT as God had planned for us all? After all He is God, made man, who is God, now working through the Holy Ghost (or Spirit if you prefer) - the Trinity.<br /><br />ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com