tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post3201420518049850343..comments2024-03-24T15:19:06.377-04:00Comments on The Continuum: First Sunday in LentFr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-86756130488418401382010-02-23T01:00:11.918-05:002010-02-23T01:00:11.918-05:00I have had no chance to check out the above links,...I have had no chance to check out the above links, so they may or may not pass the test of scholarship. Rehabilitation of the image of just about every major heretic has been quite an industry in the publication and sale of books for some time now.<br /><br />Nonetheless, whatever we may make of Pelagius the man, the heresy we call Pelagianism (for now, I will say, whether rightly or wrongly named) is, nonetheless, a heresy and false gospel.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-2042533374824941342010-02-22T22:58:06.814-05:002010-02-22T22:58:06.814-05:00Here's another work you may find interesting:
...Here's another work you may find interesting:<br /><br />http://books.google.com/books?id=boWIpiLkoPQC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=pelagius+misrepresented&source=bl&ots=KdtN_SzvS9&sig=wnkMXD3WI0Sa-NYzKDPHGNVbSLQ&hl=en&ei=BkyDS7exB8qilAfEi-2aAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CAoQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=pelagius%20misrepresented&f=falseVancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-25525113048881033632010-02-22T20:23:07.520-05:002010-02-22T20:23:07.520-05:00Here are a couple of essays you might find of inte...Here are a couple of essays you might find of interest. (You might look up the sources cited in these essays--and just ignore any references to movie remakes.) In the issue of divine grace and human free will, Pelagius went too far in one direction, and St. Augustine, in his response, went too far in the opposite direction. St. Augustine's influence was greater in the West than in the East, and to this day some Western theologians accuse the Orthodox of being "Pelagian" or "Semi-Pelagian." It seems to me that the Orthodox understanding regarding this matter is consistent with what the Church (before Augustine) taught in every place. The matter should be especially important to a branch of the Church that places a high premium on the Vincentian principle.<br /><br />http://www.fpcjackson.org/resources/church_history/pelagianorig.htm<br />http://www.brojed.org/pelagius.phpVancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-77042506155248207632010-02-22T12:43:18.430-05:002010-02-22T12:43:18.430-05:00Father Hart Asks:"That bit about Pelagius com...Father Hart Asks:"That bit about Pelagius comes across as a new idea, and seems rather theoretical. What evidence is there for this new take on the man's doctrine?"<br /><br />Father Hart: did you not see the 2004 remake of King Arthur? If its in the movies, it must be true!<br /><br />Richard<br />BTW: a wonderful sermon. Thank you!The Midland Agrarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17214111067042466363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-13599538855365897672010-02-21T18:49:04.093-05:002010-02-21T18:49:04.093-05:00That bit about Pelagius comes across as a new idea...That bit about Pelagius comes across as a new idea, and seems rather theoretical. What evidence is there for this new take on the man's doctrine?Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-55917565780453970142010-02-21T17:04:08.821-05:002010-02-21T17:04:08.821-05:00A number of scholars have taken another look at Pe...A number of scholars have taken another look at Pelagius and concluded that his views were not as heretical as they've been made out to be. He did miss the mark in a number of his comments, but so did Augustine, his strongest opponent (who appears to have misrepresented Pelagius on certain points). Calvinists (whose soteriology is rooted in Augustine's views) interpret narrowly passages that speak of humans being "dead" in their sins. Yet, it is clear that this is one of several metaphors Scripture uses to describe man's sinfulness. We are not only "dead"; we are also "sick" and "slaves"--all this due to sin. These are metaphors. They do not mean we are incapable of doing what God commands us to do. Rather, they describe a condition that has resulted from not doing what God has commanded.Vancenoreply@blogger.com