tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post116169046772234610..comments2024-02-04T15:10:18.485-05:00Comments on The Continuum: Lambeth Look Out?Fr. Robert Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-62750395273756443162007-03-09T13:32:00.000-05:002007-03-09T13:32:00.000-05:00John Savage,If you read this, let me remark that I...John Savage,<BR/><BR/>If you read this, let me remark that I think you get the award for the most recent post on the oldest post.<BR/><BR/>Forgive me if I don't recall your name from possible previous comments. Just allow me to welcome you to this blog and suggest you become a regular reader.<BR/><BR/>In doing so, you might find that the continuing movement has just a bit more to it than you might have perceived on first blush.Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-74760482070209096772007-03-09T07:28:00.000-05:002007-03-09T07:28:00.000-05:00Where are their churches? I telephoned one listed ...Where are their churches? I telephoned one listed as Holy Trinity Bury (the CofE HTB still has weekly mass!), and was told that there is no church, and no mass. I was though, informed that a Mr Jeffrey Robinson was about to be ordained to open a parish in Prestwich, in his house! The Archbishop suggested in the meantime, I attend a FinF church nearby called St Hilda's 'who use the English Missal'. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that they had not used the English Missal for about 25 years. I was also told that St Hilda's was about to close down and the congregation move to the 'new church'. After conversations with the Diocese, that was seen to be rubbish. It have since been told by a member of St Hildas that Jeffrey Robinson is a very unpopular parish reader who was turned down for ordination by the Anglican Church and that certainly no one will be following him to his new church in Mansion Avenue. <BR/><BR/>This, it seems to me, is the general calibre of ministers in continuing churches, with a few exceptions, frustrated laity who want to dress up. <BR/><BR/>I also telephoned their church in Bolton, and was also told that they have no church, and no mass. Their priests were surprisingly candid and happy to chat, but clearly, it seemed to me, lived in a bit of a Walter Mitty land. <BR/><BR/>John Savage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162820600550782242006-11-06T08:43:00.000-05:002006-11-06T08:43:00.000-05:00Further to the comments about +Peter Compton-Caput...Further to the comments about +Peter Compton-Caputo and the allegations by Canon Tregenza that he was never in England. I have now carried out some enquiries and can confirm that he assisted at Meavey, Devon (St. Peter)during the period he was here. This is confirmed by his widow. As remarked by Albion, it does not actually matter, save that it probably reflects on the likely veracity of other statements by the good Canon about +Peter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162333219945071382006-10-31T17:20:00.000-05:002006-10-31T17:20:00.000-05:00Meeting with me or any of our staff is not difficu...Meeting with me or any of our staff is not difficult. I would be happy to meet with Warwickensis or anyone else at any time. All he has to do is ask. In my opinion one of the failings of bishops is a general view of their inacessibility to the laity. That is not the case with me or any of our regionary bishops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162292665531147502006-10-31T06:04:00.000-05:002006-10-31T06:04:00.000-05:00Phew, this has been a roller coaster of comments!I...Phew, this has been a roller coaster of comments!<BR/><BR/>If I have said anything to disparage the AIC, then of course I apologise. However, I am yet to meet a member of the AIC. That will come in time, I'm sure.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I'm glad that finally we have a Continuum Bishop who is online and actively listening and responding, and I thank Bishop Peachey for appearing here and making comments.<BR/><BR/>May I ask Bishop Peachey to look in on the <A HREF="http://anglocatholic.proboards29.com/index.cgi" REL="nofollow">Anglo-Catholic Central Board</A>? It would be so good to have one with episcopal orders to make comments there since we have no-one to represent the holders of the Apostolic Office. <BR/><BR/>I guess we Anglo-Catholics haven't really got the best record for following Episcopal Authority! ;-)Warwickensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310450226153796760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162171057838986802006-10-29T20:17:00.000-05:002006-10-29T20:17:00.000-05:00On the subject of the Continuum needing to work fo...On the subject of the Continuum needing to work for unity, a thought occurs to me. We often read of the various Continuing churches attempting to have talks with the Vatican/Rome about some sort of communion agreement between them and Rome. I can't help but think the powers that be in Rome would respect us more if we were all united and got along. My guess is that when they receive a communication from a Continuing church about a possible communion agreement, they say to themselves: "If they can't get along with other Continuing Anglicans, how could we expect them to cooperate with us?"ACC Memberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427983663787892734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162083298349889902006-10-28T20:54:00.000-04:002006-10-28T20:54:00.000-04:00I like the idea of going to the "disenfranchised" ...I like the idea of going to the "disenfranchised" such as those in retirement homes. A soul is a soul no matter where it may be. Many are left out or left behind by society. So if the AIC wants to reach out to them, that's good.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218434053331256206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162078184780088942006-10-28T19:29:00.000-04:002006-10-28T19:29:00.000-04:00I like what POETREADER said. Isn't ittotally cool ...I like what POETREADER said. Isn't ittotally cool that writers on this blog representing the APA, ACC, TAC, ACA, and APCK all more or less agree on almost everything?!? Wouldn't it be great if all these branches of the Continuum could get our respective Bishops to agree together on the abundance of things we have in common? It could be the end of division within the Continuum.ACC Memberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427983663787892734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162070731090260712006-10-28T17:25:00.000-04:002006-10-28T17:25:00.000-04:00I forgot to mention something. In my survey of the...I forgot to mention something. In my survey of the AIC website, I counted, IIRC, 29 parishes in England.Don't recall seeing any figures on other places, but may have missed them.<BR/><BR/>It appears to me that the AIC is growing in two ways -- by coopting existing churches and by its own planting.<BR/><BR/>In the latter case, the very nature of emerging Christian communities is a messy business, and it may not always be possible, as Bp Peachey points out, to point to a parish setting. This is bound to happen when clergy come on board before there is a "place" for them. So what's the problem with ministering where the Spirit leads, as long as there is episcopal guidance and authority.<BR/><BR/>That leads me to another question, which is one of catholic order. I believe I saw something on the AIC website about a pentecostal minister in West Africa having been elected as an AIC bishop. Does the AIC have in place the structures to ensure that this man is teaching the catholic faith, as the likelihood is that he probably doesn't know much about it, given his background? In that respect, I did notice that the AIC has some pretty strict rules about liturgy and the appropriate Scripture to be used.<BR/><BR/>Just some random questions and thoughts, but I would really like to see this conversation become a constructive one.Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162070147342975122006-10-28T17:15:00.000-04:002006-10-28T17:15:00.000-04:00Mike+That was a stimulating comment.It would be ni...Mike+<BR/><BR/>That was a stimulating comment.<BR/><BR/>It would be nice to know whence you speak, and whether there is a bit of continuing tongue in cheek here.Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162065184482984452006-10-28T15:53:00.000-04:002006-10-28T15:53:00.000-04:00Oh, another continuing church...yawn!Oh, another continuing church...yawn!Mike+https://www.blogger.com/profile/06027824657157856595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162053674618403292006-10-28T12:41:00.000-04:002006-10-28T12:41:00.000-04:00Ed,As I hinted to in my last comment here, I would...Ed,<BR/><BR/>As I hinted to in my last comment here, I would agree with you that the tenor of this conversation has turned sour. I must also say that I have been made absolutely dizzy by the number of names, ordinations and consecrations being thrown round.<BR/><BR/>I will repeat what I said to Bishop Peachey at the beginning of our correspondence -- I had never heard of the AIC until he appeared. But in a spirit of openness, I wanted to make him feel welcome here. I wouldn't say that has been the general response of other posters, but then I do not have a dog in this fight and do not know the history.<BR/><BR/>I'll leave it to those who wish to to battle it out, but would remind you all of your Christian obligation to do it in as charitable and constructive a manner as possible.Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162049821322074182006-10-28T11:37:00.000-04:002006-10-28T11:37:00.000-04:00The rant from Fr Treganza should tell you everythi...The rant from Fr Treganza should tell you everything you need to know about AIC Inc. +Peter Compton-Caputo and +Colin Tatum are now deceased. +John Gains has retired. I was not part of AIC then, and those concerned are not part of AIC Worldwide now. I am entirely satisfied from the documents in my possession that ++Norman Dutton is in legitimate bishop's Orders. That is why this alleged history is precisely that, history, and I have no idea what people like this think there is to be gained by ranting at me about their historic personal problems in a period when I had never heard of AIC either.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I am assured that +Peter Compton-Caputo did work here in Devon for a period. His widow ought to know better than some of our correspondents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162043371469380322006-10-28T09:49:00.000-04:002006-10-28T09:49:00.000-04:00What a wonderful example we provide to an unbeliev...What a wonderful example we provide to an unbelieving world when we invest so much effort in wrangling over prerogative and privilege than in proclaiming salvation to a dying world. <BR/><BR/>I'm observing something interesting here: The four of us on the masthead of this blog represent three separate jurisidictions of the Continuum: ACC, TAC/ACA, and APCK. As such we do have our differences, and can become passionate about them, but these are not what we choose to focus upon. I believe I can safely say that a leading desire of all of us is to bring an end to this sad division and to the bad feelings that have existed. <BR/><BR/>I, for one, have no desire at all to get into a discussion with the spirit that Bishop Peachey has brought among us, and find the tone of argument sufficiently uncomfortable that I have lost whatever interest I may have had in the "AIC"<BR/><BR/>edpoetreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613032927883843078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162039973802851592006-10-28T08:52:00.000-04:002006-10-28T08:52:00.000-04:00This conversation has caused me to think. Some rea...This conversation has caused me to think. Some really good thoughts here from all concerned. <BR/><BR/>Results are blogged <A HREF="http://warwickensis.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">here.</A>Warwickensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310450226153796760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162027363991444542006-10-28T05:22:00.000-04:002006-10-28T05:22:00.000-04:00I am posting this at the request of a man identify...I am posting this at the request of a man identifying himself as The Fr. Canon Professor R.H. Tregenza+, PhD, Rector of Mt. Calvary Anglican Church, APA and <BR/>President of the Anglican Independent Communion, Inc.I have edited out portions that could be construed to be libelous.<BR/><BR/>It is addressed to Bishop Peachey:<BR/><BR/>Dear Sir,<BR/><BR/>In good faith and charity I must respond to this deeply confused and flawed statement of yours.<BR/><BR/>You previously stated on this blog:<BR/><BR/>"2. I am afraid that the defence of + Samuel Loiselle as the 'real' AIC is breath-takingly risible. He is one of the very small jurisdictions to which I referred, who fell out with +Compton Caputo in circumstances which are history, and which are of little concern to AIC Worldwide.”<BR/><BR/>As to “history”. I first created the term “Anglican Independent Communion” in 1999 for +Peter Caputo ( Compton-Caputo was not his real name. Compton was the married last name of his last wife, attached by a “-“ without legal or due process to his name to sound less Italian and more English) and St. Paul’s Anglican Church, Parish of St. Charles the Martyr, after we all voted to depart +Melli. So, first question, how could your AIC exist since 1997?<BR/> <BR/>The Anglican Independent Communion Inc. is the legal name and trade mark of a Maryland, USA Corporation which holds all the names, titles and trade marks of the AIC as its sole property since December 4, 1999. By what right do you use the name?<BR/> <BR/>+Robert Samuel Loiselle is the only bishop consecrated in a lawful and regular manner for this above mentioned jurisdiction with three Catholic bishops in direct attendance, with a proper clergy election, with the approval of the laity and vestry of St. Paul’s, the mother parish of the diocese, the laity of the diocese and the recognized clergy of the AIC under the Canons of 1958 PECUSA and C of E 1604. This was on March 11, 2000. +Bob was consecrated Suffragan for the USA with a full congregation in attendance within the proper context of a public Holy Communion. Is this the case with Dutton or Gains? +Bob is the present rector of St. Paul’s, the historic cathedral of the AIC, and has been rector since 2001. He still sits in the chair. Does Dutton or Gains?<BR/> <BR/>On November 11, 2000 at Georgetown, Delaware +Peter Caputo resigned as Ordinary at the yearly AIC Synod for reasons of poor health. +Bob was nominated by +Peter and then elected and raised to Coadjutor and then to Presiding Bishop of the AIC.<BR/><BR/>How are these documented facts ”breathtaking-risible”? I have ALL the documents and signed papers. I was Canon to the Ordinary and Canon to the Cathedral. I also have video tape of +Peter naming +Bob his successor at St. Paul’s.<BR/><BR/>We are not “one of the very small jurisdictions to which I referred”. We are the<BR/>original jurisdiction that you departed from in a lawless and anti-Christ like manner. We are the very Apostolic foundations that you/Dutton/Gains once needed but now abuse, obfuscate and denigrate. Is this kind, Apostolic or Christ like?<BR/><BR/>Would you really like to discuss in this public forum the real “circumstances which are history”? You attempt to dismiss the central issues of this case with the casual wave of the back of your gloved hand. Following are a few points for your and the blog’s historical review. But beware, I have many of +Peter Caputo’s personal papers which document his relationship with ++Doren and +Knight and his actions as the rector of St. Paul’s, and his dealings with<BR/>–LaRoque, -Clavier and -Dutton and the matters concerning his last marriage and his consecration in the Traditional Episcopal Church. +Peter gave them to me as his Canon for safe keeping. I can prove in a court of canon or civil law all that I represent here within.<BR/><BR/>I was present at the so called consecration of –Dutton. There was only one bishop there +Peter and no other letters of consent from those in abstencia placed on the altar or read at the consecration. I remember at the following tea… quite charming… Norman asking for these letters and +Peter, as was his manner was sweet, controlling but evasive because he did not have them. However, until last year Norman listed on your web site that +Larry Shaver (APA) provided a letter. He has since taken that off as +Shaver has publicly stated he never wrote such a letter. Colin Tatum was previously made by +Peter a “Lord Abbot” of the Order of St. Cornelius. As such, he had no Episcopal powers as a bishop outside of his order and no Apostolic lines other than those of +Peter. His connection to +Peter and –Dutton was first through an English honorary military society. His letter was not present at the so called consecration of the actor –Dutton.<BR/> <BR/>John Gains was in fact a priest in the AIC and was priested by –LaRoque (who attempted to murder his wife and then committed suicide). John resented +Bob being made Coadjutor but voted for the election. He considered himself senior. +Caputo died on August 15, 2001 Three days before that Gains somehow got under +Peter’s hands without the knowledge or consent of the Presiding Bishop of the AIC, the Vestry of St. Paul’s Anglican Church, the Chancellor of the AIC, Mr. John Vickerman, or myself as Canon to +Loiselle and still by the way the “Canon to the Cathedral”.<BR/> <BR/>The day before the +Caputo funeral was the first time that we knew of the so called Gains “consecration”. Not even the St. Paul’s vestry knew about the so called “consecration” of Gains. Gains first told me that as we were walking together out of the public viewing. I told him what he had done was totally lawless, in violation of the canons, and self serving. I asked as a “priest” how could he take such advantage of a dying man who with such advanced diabetes was not in his right mind. Was that decent and in order?<BR/> <BR/>Your website states that Norman accepts the “coadjutor” position for the AIC in “July”. What exact day? And how was this possible in a lawful and Apostolic Church in the Anglican Tradition? Where was the election? There was no synod. There was no agreement by the vestry and laity of the AIC churches, no consultation with the lawfully elected Presiding Bishop, (who happened to be on vacation in Fiji at that time), no phone call to the Canon of the Diocese, or any documentation. Another self serving and lawless act? +Peter since November 11, 2000 had no authority to act as the ordinary of the AIC. If he was then functioning as a “missionary bishop” then he had no right to use the name Anglican Independent Communion in any Episcopal matters. Then by what right do you style yourself as AIC Worldwide?<BR/> <BR/>You might suggest this is all possible within the economy of the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the internet. I doubt that. Real shepherds have sheep that know their voices, roofs that leak, gardens that need tending and real churches that are not just post office boxes and URLs. Archbishops have more parishes than bishops. That is the Anglican way.<BR/><BR/>Now, why should these issues be of such “little concern” to the so called AIC worldwide and the Anglican Continuing Church?Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1162008193181620902006-10-28T00:03:00.000-04:002006-10-28T00:03:00.000-04:00I tried to post well over 24 hours ago on this thr...I tried to post well over 24 hours ago on this thread but for some reason it didn't upload properly.<BR/><BR/>Here is what I attempted to post:<BR/><BR/>I think it is rather telling as to who “lost his cool” first. <BR/><BR/>I see Ohio Anglican as merely challenging for an explanation to gather the extent of ministry in the AICUK. He is also spot on regarding the “over-bishoped” continuing churches. It is shameful. Some of us have tried to draw the line on making new ones(ie., APA, APCK) but others make it look very bad.<BR/><BR/>What I attempted to point out in my previous post was some of the factual errors Bp. Peachley posted as truth. Fr. Hart also noted, as I did, regarding +Caputo not being a C of E priest as was posted. When details are in error, it causes a cloud to descend on whatever else is set forth as fact. I'm sure as an attorney, Bp. Peachley would know how to use such errors to destroy a witness in court. Admittedly, I am skeptical about the AIC “Worldwide”especially since no one even heard of them before the posting here.<BR/><BR/>I have a call in to a friend in Maryland who may have been present when Bp. Peachley's Metropolitan Bp. Dutton was consecrated. I hope to hear from him about 8:30 PM (<I> this was Thursday evening</I>)in U.S. Eastern time. Maybe I'll have some additional info then.<BR/><BR/><B>Now back to present time</B><BR/>Heard back from my friend and the background of Bp. Dutton, et. al., regarding the passing of AIC from +Caputo to them, is a piece of crazy history. What is listed on their website is false. I don't type well enough to write it all up here. I believe that Bp. Peachley is misinformed about the start of the AIC "Worldwide". Basically what all of this boils down to is that none of the larger continuing churches will have anything to do with them, regarding them in the <I>vagantes</I> category. There is no substance here. I think we have better things to do than to worry about a "church" that has absolutely no people and has a "made up" history.<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>Erich+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161990254134233462006-10-27T19:04:00.000-04:002006-10-27T19:04:00.000-04:00I live in the Church of England Diocese of Lincoln...I live in the Church of England Diocese of Lincoln, which is 80 miles x 50 miles. It has about 300 clergy. To service them they have 3 full time bishops, 6 retired bishops, three Archdeacons, umpteen Rural Deans, and 46 full-time staff at Church House. The average Sunday attendance in the local villages around here is a couple of dozen on a good day, and very often fewer than a dozen. The AIC have no full-time staff. Who's kidding who?<BR/><BR/>Did you know that in the Church of England figures, people who don't go to church don't count. When they are no longer able to attend the parish church and put their hands in their pockets, the C of E has no further interest in them statistically. Our priests who put a great deal of work into residential care centres, hostels, hospitals and prisons have no interest in people whose version of ministry is compiling bogus statistics to try to justify their existence. That's the job of some of the Church House people.<BR/><BR/>Oh by the way, I had a long email from the Congo today from another group who want to join us. Perhaps I should start off by asking them how many people roll up to church on Sunday, and whether they can prove that they have a high enough people to clergy ratio before we decide whether or not to accept them?<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that somebody in this discussion has forgotten that the Twelve had no money, no buildings, and no jobsworths. They were there to spread the word. I know how they feel. I cannot for the life of me understand the mentality that says that 100 worshippers in a church building are valued and important, but 100 people spread across two or three Nursing Homes who have to receive Communion in the Common Room or at the bedside are worthless and of no account. This is one of the reasons that the C of E and ECUSA is in a state of collapse.I think that some of our correspondents need to take a deep look at what they think a 'church' really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161984091531485952006-10-27T17:21:00.000-04:002006-10-27T17:21:00.000-04:00"Perhaps part of how ECUSA became the Apostate ins..."Perhaps part of how ECUSA became the Apostate institution it is has to do with the business manager role of the bishops. It is, to say the least, a dubious paradigm."<BR/><BR/>Excellent point, father. The business model does have severe drawbacks - with us and with other groups (e.g. the Romans).J. Gordon Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941152529096287366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161975528925997622006-10-27T14:58:00.000-04:002006-10-27T14:58:00.000-04:00J. Gordon Anderson replied to my most recent comme...J. Gordon Anderson replied to my most recent comment with these words:<BR/><I>There are rural deans, canons, and archdeacons that can assist bishops with diocesan administration.</I><BR/><BR/>This is true. But, the Bishop ought to know the priests well enough to be their pastor, and also have a good grip on that is going on in the churches. The idea that bigger is better, or that ECUSA can provide a working model, are both rather weak. Perhaps part of how ECUSA became the Apostate institution it is has to do with the business manager role of the bishops. It is, to say the least, a dubious paradigm.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161975312181274552006-10-27T14:55:00.000-04:002006-10-27T14:55:00.000-04:00Could we perhaps try to move this away from what i...Could we perhaps try to move this away from what is running perilously close to a sniping match, and try to be more constructive. I, too, find it curious that there seems to be an inordinate focus on the hierarchy and virtually nothing on the numbers on the faithful. But this is not unique.<BR/><BR/>What do we have in common here, and is there any ground for cooperation and intercommunion between the AIC and the other jurisdictions?Albion Landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14423168351697120421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161973070974051952006-10-27T14:17:00.000-04:002006-10-27T14:17:00.000-04:00In my diocese of Rochester (Kent), there are at le...In my diocese of Rochester (Kent), there are at least 6 bishops, a diocesan, a suffragan, two assistants and 2PEVs, this significantly reduces the Bishop-Presbyterate ratio. A 1:200 ratio is simply unworkable.Warwickensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310450226153796760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161963605380259612006-10-27T11:40:00.000-04:002006-10-27T11:40:00.000-04:00I was certainly not trying to "rubbish" anyone. I...I was certainly not trying to "rubbish" anyone. Iwas just making an observation. I certainly don't know the particulars of how far one might have to travel in England. However, our Diocese in the Continuum here in the US contains 5 states, a larger land area than England, and has one Bishop. I'm simply observing that if an Anglican church in the Continuum has too many Bishops, it opens us to criticism and attack from the C of E and its Communion, as well as Rome and the Orthodox. We don't want to set ourselves up for attack if we can avoid it. You will find there is no one more open-minded than I concerning other churches. I never slam or attack anyone. I simply believe that the Continuum needs to work for unification to live up to Christ's commands for unity; and to give ourselves greater respectability among other churches. I have nothing but respect for the AIC. I especially like the fact that they are not exclusively Anglo-Catholic, but also embrace those of a respectful, "low church" Anglican tradition.ACC Memberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03427983663787892734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161953854935485482006-10-27T08:57:00.000-04:002006-10-27T08:57:00.000-04:00There are rural deans, canons, and archdeacons tha...There are rural deans, canons, and archdeacons that can assist bishops with diocesan administration.J. Gordon Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941152529096287366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18902745.post-1161907822909444902006-10-26T20:10:00.000-04:002006-10-26T20:10:00.000-04:00The idea of one bishop trying to be responsible fo...The idea of one bishop trying to be responsible for up to 200 clergy is ridiculous. Of course, I know that in ECUSA this happens, because the bishops there are simply CEOs of business firms.Fr. Robert Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05892141425033196616noreply@blogger.com